Possible General Bug Affecting Copied Attacks (Slowking's Seek Inspiration and Walrein's Cold Snap)

Bug Reports
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Hello TCG ONE Development Team,

I would like to report a possible bug involving Slowking’s attack Seek Inspiration and Walrein’s attack Cold Snap.

Pokémon and Attacks Involved

  • Slowking – Seek Inspiration

  • Walrein – Cold Snap (Cosmic Eclipse 052/236)

Steps to Reproduce

  1. Use Slowking’s attack, Seek Inspiration.

  2. Reveal Walrein from the top of the deck.

  3. Choose Walrein’s Cold Snap and use it through Seek Inspiration.

  4. On your next turn, use Seek Inspiration again.

  5. Reveal Walrein again and attempt to use Cold Snap.

Actual Behavior

TCG ONE does not allow Cold Snap to be selected again.

It appears that the game incorrectly treats the attack used on the previous turn as Cold Snap.

Expected Behavior

Cold Snap should be selectable again through Seek Inspiration on the following turn.

According to the card text, Seek Inspiration allows Slowking to choose one of the revealed Pokémon’s attacks and use it as this attack.

Therefore, the attack actually used is Seek Inspiration, not Cold Snap.

Walrein’s Cold Snap has the following restriction:

“If 1 of your Pokémon used Cold Snap during your last turn, this attack can’t be used.”

However, since the previous attack was Seek Inspiration, this restriction should not prevent Slowking from using Seek Inspiration again to copy Cold Snap.

Possible General Bug Affecting Copied Attacks

This issue may not be limited to Slowking’s Seek Inspiration and Walrein’s Cold Snap.

It could indicate a more general bug affecting copied attacks across the game, where the game incorrectly records the copied attack instead of the original attack used to copy it.

I would appreciate it if you could investigate whether the same issue affects other Pokémon and attacks that allow players to copy or use another Pokémon’s attacks.

Supporting Reference – Specific Ruling

JustInBasil – Surging Sparks Eternal Format Ban List Update (October 24, 2024)

https://www.justinbasil.com/resources/surging-sparks-eternal-format-ban-list-update

Please refer to the section titled “Walrein CEC 52”.

This section specifically explains that when Slowking uses Walrein’s Cold Snap through Seek Inspiration, the attack used is Seek Inspiration, not Cold Snap.

It also explains that this interaction allows Slowking to copy Cold Snap repeatedly on consecutive turns.

The article also mentions Alakazam Star’s Skill Copy as another example of this interaction.

Request

Please review and fix this interaction in TCG ONE.

The game should correctly recognize the original attack being used (Seek Inspiration), rather than incorrectly recording the copied attack (Cold Snap).

Please also investigate whether this behavior affects other copied attacks throughout the game.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

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Triage Agent: Fixed (f26603ebf). An attack copied with “use it as this attack” no longer counts as Cold Snap. Slowking SCR 58’s Seek Inspiration (and Alakazam ☆'s Skill Copy) can copy Walrein CEC 52’s Cold Snap on consecutive turns, and Walrein can use Cold Snap the turn after a copy. This follows the official rulings: TPCi 2019-11-14 (Mimikyu’s Copycat may copy Flare Strike on successive turns) and TPCi 2017-12-07 (Watch and Learn copies the copier’s own attack). As the official Japanese Q&A on Trickster GX says, a copied Cold Snap is still refused when one of your Pokémon used Cold Snap itself during your last turn.

Also fixed (48600f0c1): Walrein’s Blizzard did its 10 extra damage to the Active Pokémon too. Now it hits only the Benched Pokémon.

About the general part: “During your next turn, this Pokémon can’t use X” attacks still stop a copier from copying X two turns in a row. That one is up to the admin, so it isn’t changed yet. Both fixes go live with the next engine deploy.

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Triage Agent: a follow-up question for @Testers on copied attacks.

After the fix above, a copied attack (Seek Inspiration, Copycat, Metronome, Night Watch…) counts as the copier’s own attack, as the official rulings say (TPCi 2019-11-14 Copycat; Japanese Q&A for Copy Anything, Shadow Imitation and Yoga Loop). So “this Pokémon can’t use X during your next turn” no longer stops a copy of X.

Two related cases have no ruling we could find:

  1. “During your next turn, this Pokémon’s X attack does N more (or less) damage” (about 75 cards). If the copier copies X on its next turn, should the boost or reduction apply to the copy?
  2. WotC-era “can’t use this attack again as long as this Pokémon stays in play” (Leek Slap BS, Koga’s Beedrill’s Hyper Needle, Giovanni’s Magikarp’s Ancestral Memory). Does using it through Metronome count as using it?

Our suggestion is that copies are unaffected in both cases, the same as the rulings above. If you know a ruling either way, please share it here.

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Copying Extra Comet Punch on one turn, then copying Extra Comet Punch again next turn results in no damage boost.

Modern ruling for “can’t use [attack] again”:

You can use Mew ex to copy Gouging Fire ex’s Blaze Blitz (“This Pokémon can’t use Blaze Blitz again until it leaves the Active Spot.”) two turns in a row without leaving the Active Spot.

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Triage Agent: Done (857f2023c), following the testers’ answer above (thanks, dxdydzd). A copied attack (Seek Inspiration, Metronome, Copycat, Genome Hacking…) is now unaffected by both cases:

  • “During your next turn, this Pokémon’s X attack does N more (or less) damage”: a copy of X gets neither the boost nor the reduction. Slowking copying Metagross TEF 115’s Meteor Mash two turns in a row does 60 both times (was 60, then 120), and copying Deoxys SM164’s Psycho Boost twice does 100 both times (was 100, then 50). The Pokémon’s own attack still gets it. Official Japanese Q&A: Smeargle’s Trace copying Metagross’s Comet Punch again on the next turn does 50 damage.
  • WotC-era “you can’t use this attack again as long as X stays in play” (Farfetch’d BS 27’s Leek Slap, Koga’s Beedrill’s Hyper Needle, Giovanni’s Magikarp’s Ancestral Memory): a copy doesn’t count as using it and is never refused, so Metronome can copy Leek Slap every turn. Farfetch’d itself still can’t use it again. Official Japanese Q&A: Mew ex may copy Gouging Fire ex’s Blaze Blitz two turns in a row.

It goes live with the next engine deploy.