[BR] Pidgeotto (BS 22). Weedle (BS 69). Pidgeotto's "Mirror Move" attack does not se

NoYawns · July 21, 2026, 3:31am

Pidgeotto (BS 22). Weedle (BS 69). Pidgeotto's "Mirror Move" attack does not seem to properly apply special conditions (such as Poisoned) along with dealing damage.

I’m not sure if it was because it was the result of a coin flip (Weedle’s “Poison Sting”), or if this is the case all the time. Does it also fail to work against something like Gloom (JU 37)'s “Poisonpowder”? Regardless, I wasn’t able to observe if it was the case for other conditions like Confused or Paralyzed (presuming I had a Full Heal or some other way to cure that status condition first, too) – but I’d be surprised if Poisoned was the sole exception in this case.

I suspect that if it’s a problem on Pidgeotto, it may also be an issue for Spearow(JU 62) as well. But that may need to be tested separately.

First time remembering to do the reporting function in-game before I forgot to do so and quit instead(hopefully this works okay?).

------------------Begin Game Log------------------
The game is about to start
Type: Career
Format: Base–Gym
Battle begins between Thelastgreekgod and NoYawns!
[NoYawns]: hello again
Coin flip [Opening Flip]: HEADS
Thelastgreekgod will start
Game setup complete
Between turns
Turn 1 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Thelastgreekgod played Professor Oak (BS 88).
Thelastgreekgod drew 7 cards
Attached a [F] Energy to Machop
DEBUG: Machop’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[F] Energy]
Machop used Low Kick
Meowth is weak to FIGHTING
Machop did 40 damage to Meowth
Between turns
Turn 2 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a [F] Energy to Dratini
DEBUG: Dratini’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[F] Energy]
NoYawns played Pokédex (BS 87).
Between turns
Turn 3 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Attached a [F] Energy to Sandshrew
DEBUG: Sandshrew’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[F] Energy]
Thelastgreekgod played Poké Ball (JU 64).
Coin flip [Poké Ball]: HEADS
Thelastgreekgod has shuffled deck.
Thelastgreekgod played Poké Ball (JU 64).
Coin flip [Poké Ball]: TAILS
Thelastgreekgod played Recycle (FO 61).
Coin flip [Recycle]: TAILS
Machop used Low Kick
Meowth is weak to FIGHTING
Machop did 40 damage to Meowth
Meowth was knocked out
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Dratini is now active
Between turns
Turn 4 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a [G] Energy to Dratini
DEBUG: Dratini’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[G] Energy, [F] Energy]
Dratini used Wrap
Coin flip [Wrap]: TAILS
Dratini did 10 damage to Machop
Between turns
Turn 5 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Attached a [G] Energy to Weedle
DEBUG: Weedle’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[G] Energy]
Put Weedle (BS 69) onto bench.
Machop used Low Kick
Machop did 20 damage to Dratini
Between turns
Turn 6 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a [W] Energy to Dratini
DEBUG: Dratini’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[W] Energy, [G] Energy, [F] Energy]
NoYawns played Pokémon Trader (BS 77).
Pokemon Trader trades a [Meowth (JU 56)] in hand for a [Pidgey (BS 57)] from deck!
Put [Meowth (JU 56)] to Deck
Put [Pidgey (BS 57)] to Hand
NoYawns has shuffled deck.
Put Pidgey (BS 57) onto bench.
Dratini evolved into Dragonair (BS 18)
Dragonair used Slam
Coin flip [Slam]: HEADS HEADS
Dragonair did 60 damage to Machop
Machop was knocked out
NoYawns took one prize card.
Weedle is now active
Between turns
Turn 7 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Attached a [G] Energy to Weedle
DEBUG: Weedle’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[G] Energy]
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: HEADS
Weedle did 10 damage to Dragonair
Dragonair is now poisoned
Between turns
Dragonair got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 8 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a [L] Energy to Pidgey
DEBUG: Pidgey’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[L] Energy]
Dragonair used Slam
Coin flip [Slam]: TAILS TAILS
Between turns
Dragonair got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 9 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Attached a [F] Energy to Sandshrew
DEBUG: Sandshrew’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[F] Energy, [F] Energy]
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
Weedle did 10 damage to Dragonair
Between turns
Dragonair got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 10 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Put Farfetch’d (BS 27) onto bench.
Dragonair used Slam
Coin flip [Slam]: TAILS HEADS
Dragonair did 30 damage to Weedle
Between turns
Dragonair got 10 damage due to poison
Dragonair was knocked out
Dragonair is no longer poisoned
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Pidgey is now active
Turn 11 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Thelastgreekgod played Bill (BS 91).
Thelastgreekgod drew 2 cards
Thelastgreekgod played Potion (BS 94).
Weedle was restored 20 health.
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
Weedle did 10 damage to Pidgey
Between turns
Turn 12 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a Double Colorless Energy (BS 96) to Pidgey
DEBUG: Pidgey’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[L] Energy, Double Colorless Energy (BS 96)]
Pidgey evolved into Pidgeotto (BS 22)
Pidgeotto used Whirlwind
Pidgeotto did 20 damage to Weedle
Sandshrew is now active
Between turns
Turn 13 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Thelastgreekgod played Switch (BS 95).
Weedle is now active
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: HEADS
Weedle did 10 damage to Pidgeotto
Pidgeotto is now poisoned
Between turns
Pidgeotto got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 14 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
NoYawns played Poké Ball (JU 64).
Coin flip [Poké Ball]: TAILS
Pidgeotto used Mirror Move
Pidgeotto did 10 damage to Weedle
Between turns
Pidgeotto got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 15 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Thelastgreekgod played PlusPower (BS 84).
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
PlusPower +10
Weedle did 20 damage to Pidgeotto
Pidgeotto was knocked out
Pidgeotto is no longer poisoned
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Farfetch’d is now active
PlusPower (BS 84) was discarded
Between turns
Turn 16 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
[NoYawns]: it didn’t poison? oh.
NoYawns played Pokédex (BS 87).
[Thelastgreekgod]: I used an item
[NoYawns]: no i mean the mirror move
Between turns
Turn 17 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: HEADS
Weedle did 10 damage to Farfetch’d
Farfetch’d is now poisoned
Between turns
Farfetch’d got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 18 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Put Dratini (BS 26) onto bench.
Between turns
Farfetch’d got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 19 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Weedle used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
Weedle did 10 damage to Farfetch’d
Between turns
Farfetch’d got 10 damage due to poison
Farfetch’d was knocked out
Farfetch’d is no longer poisoned
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Dratini is now active
Turn 20 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Attached a Potion Energy (TR 82) to Dratini
DEBUG: Dratini’s Current_Energy_Cards: [Potion Energy (TR 82)]
Dratini already has full health.
Dratini used Pound
Dratini did 10 damage to Weedle
Between turns
Turn 21 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Thelastgreekgod played Pokémon Trader (BS 77).
Pokemon Trader trades a [Machoke (BS 34)] in hand for a [Kakuna (BS 33)] from deck!
Put [Machoke (BS 34)] to Deck
Put [Kakuna (BS 33)] to Hand
Thelastgreekgod has shuffled deck.
Weedle evolved into Kakuna (BS 33)
Attached a [G] Energy to Kakuna
DEBUG: Kakuna’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[G] Energy, [G] Energy]
Kakuna used Poisonpowder
Coin flip [Poisonpowder]: HEADS
Kakuna did 20 damage to Dratini
Dratini is now poisoned
Between turns
Dratini got 10 damage due to poison
Turn 22 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
Put Tauros (JU 47) onto bench.
Dratini used Pound
Dratini did 10 damage to Kakuna
Between turns
Dratini got 10 damage due to poison
Dratini was knocked out
Dratini is no longer poisoned
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Tauros is now active
Turn 23 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Attached a [G] Energy to Kakuna
DEBUG: Kakuna’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[G] Energy, [G] Energy, [G] Energy]
Kakuna evolved into Beedrill (BS 17)
Beedrill used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
Beedrill did 40 damage to Tauros
Between turns
Turn 24 begins
NoYawns drew 1 card
[NoYawns]: oh well, gg
Attached a [P] Energy to Tauros
DEBUG: Tauros’s Current_Energy_Cards: [[P] Energy]
Between turns
Turn 25 begins
Thelastgreekgod drew 1 card
Beedrill used Poison Sting
Coin flip [Poison Sting]: TAILS
Beedrill did 40 damage to Tauros
Tauros was knocked out
Thelastgreekgod took one prize card.
Thelastgreekgod wins the game! All prizes taken
Game has ended
[Thelastgreekgod]: Thelastgreekgod has exited game.

jamie756 · July 26, 2026, 4:04pm

According to WOTC Compendium, it should apply the poison/

Q. Can Spearow’s Mirror Move poison the opponent if (let’s say) the final result of the last attack was 30 damage and poison?
A. Yup! It would do 30 damage and Poison. (May 4, 2000 WotC Chat, Q28)

Q. Just to make sure I understand correctly: Say Misdreavus successfully uses Perish Song against a Spearow with Focus Band. If Spearow survives the Focus Band flip and wakes up, it can do Mirror Move to K.O. Misdreavus. Is this correct?
A. Yes that is correct. (Feb 28, 2002 WotC Chat, Q495)

Q. If your Pokémon gets heads on Focus Band, how would you calculate Damage done by a subsequent Mirror Move Attack? Total Damage by Opponent’s Attack or amount of Damage counters placed?
A. When using Mirror Move the “Final Result of an attack” is what is done to a Pokemon BEFORE it is Knocked Out. If the Defending Pokemon has a Weakness or Resistance this is calculated BEFORE naming the final result of the attack. Focus Band takes place OUTSIDE of the normal timing sequence of attack resolution and has no effect on this definition of the Final result. It is a replacement effect that takes place before a Pokemon is Knocked out. If Pidgeotto has a Focus Band attached to it, the Final Result of an attack against it does NOT count anything that Focus Band may or may not do. Meaning if an attack against Pidgeotto does 100 damage and a Focus Band triggers successfully reducing Pidgeotto’s remaining HP to 10, the Final result of the attack against this Pokemon is 100 damage, NOT reducing the Defending Pokemon to 10 hp. So if Pidgeotto take 50 damage from a Lightning Pokemon, this is doubled due to its Weakness and the Final Result is 100 damage, regardless of whether Focus Band saves Pidgeotto from being Knocked out or not. The Focus Band alters the final outcome of what happens to Pidgeotto it does NOT alter the Final result of the attack. If the attack also has a special condition, you would do that back as well (like poison). (Feb 7, 2002 WotC Chat, Q300 & Q302; Feb 14, 2002 WotC Chat, Q12 &