# \[BR\] EXP.ALL (N4 93) KO due to non-damage **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** errata\ **Created:** [January 4, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755 "2020-01-04T20:45:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jamie756](https://forum.tcgone.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@jamie756](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/jamie756)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/1 "2020-01-04T20:45:04Z")
EXP.ALL (N4 93). Brock’s Vulpix (G2 37). It did not exp all to vulpix when i was KOed Game starting Game type: QUICKPLAY Game format: Base–Neo Player A: jamie756 Player B: Axelsj Coin flip result: HEADS Player A will start. Game setup complete **Between turns. TC: 1** Player A drew 1 card Attached a Fighting Energy to Cleffa. Put Cleffa onto bench Cleffa used Eeeeeeek A has shuffled deck. Player A drew 7 card **Between turns. TC: 2** Player B drew 1 card Player B played Professor Elm. B has shuffled deck. Player B drew 7 card Put Abra onto bench Put Sabrina’s Psyduck onto bench Attached a Rainbow Energy to Chansey. Chansey got 10 damage **Between turns. TC: 3** Player A drew 1 card [jamie756]: hiya 🙂 Put Brock’s Vulpix onto bench Put Cleffa onto bench [Axelsj]: hello 🙂 Attached a Fighting Energy to Brock’s Vulpix. Focus Band is attached to Cleffa Player A played Professor Elm. A has shuffled deck. Player A drew 7 card **Between turns. TC: 4** Player B drew 1 card Player B played Item Finder. Restored a Professor Elm to hand. Player B played Professor Elm. B has shuffled deck. Player B drew 7 card Put Abra onto bench Put Sabrina’s Psyduck onto bench Attached a Psychic Energy to Sabrina’s Psyduck. **Between turns. TC: 5** Player A drew 1 card Attached a Fighting Energy to Brock’s Vulpix. Brock’s Vulpix evolved into Brock’s Ninetales Brock’s Ninetales has used Shapeshift Brock’s Ninetales is now treated as Machamp (VM 112) Cleffa retreated. Machamp is now active Machamp used Seething Anger Chansey is weak to FIGHTING Machamp did 40 damage to Chansey **Between turns. TC: 6** Player B drew 1 card Player B played Bill. Player B drew 2 card Sabrina’s Psyduck evolved into Sabrina’s Golduck Abra evolved into Kadabra Player B played Erika. Player B drew 3 card Player A drew 3 card Attached a Psychic Energy to Kadabra. Put Abra onto bench **Between turns. TC: 7** Player A drew 1 card Attached a Fighting Energy to Machamp. Player A played Pokemon Trader. A has shuffled deck. Put Brock’s Vulpix onto bench Machamp used Seething Anger Chansey is weak to FIGHTING Machamp did 40 damage to Chansey **Between turns. TC: 8** Player B drew 1 card Kadabra evolved into Alakazam Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Player B played Professor Elm. B has shuffled deck. Player B drew 7 card Abra evolved into Kadabra Sabrina’s Psyduck evolved into Sabrina’s Golduck Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Attached a Psychic Energy to Sabrina’s Golduck. Rainbow Energy (TR 80) was discarded Chansey retreated. Sabrina’s Golduck is now active Sabrina’s Golduck used Damage Shift Moved 6 damage counters to Machamp. **Between turns. TC: 9** Player A drew 1 card Gold Berry is attached to Machamp EXP.ALL is attached to Brock’s Vulpix Player A played Brock’s Protection. Attached [Brock’s Protection (G2 101)] to Brock’s Vulpix Attached a Fighting Energy to Brock’s Vulpix. Machamp used Seething Anger Coin flip result: TAILS HEADS HEADS HEADS HEADS TAILS Machamp did 60 damage to Sabrina’s Golduck Gold berry activates Machamp was restored 40 health. Gold Berry (N1 93) was discarded **Between turns. TC: 10** Player B drew 1 card Player B played Erika. Player B drew 3 card Player A drew 3 card [jamie756]: dang 10 away [jamie756]: lol Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Attached a Psychic Energy to Alakazam. Sabrina’s Golduck used Damage Shift Moved 6 damage counters to Machamp. **Between turns. TC: 11** Player A drew 1 card Attached a Fighting Energy to Brock’s Vulpix. Machamp used Seething Anger Coin flip result: TAILS TAILS TAILS TAILS TAILS TAILS TAILS HEADS Machamp did 30 damage to Sabrina’s Golduck **Between turns. TC: 12** Player B drew 1 card [jamie756]: whatttt! [jamie756]: lol [Axelsj]: unlucky 😛 Player B played Computer Search. B has shuffled deck. Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Alakazam has swapped a damage counter! Attached a Rainbow Energy to Kadabra. Kadabra got 10 damage Sabrina’s Golduck used Damage Shift Moved 6 damage counters to Machamp. Machamp was knocked out Fighting Energy (N1 106) was discarded Fighting Energy (N1 106) was discarded Fighting Energy (N1 106) was discarded Machamp (VM 112) was discarded Player B took one prize card. Cleffa is now active **Between turns. TC: 13** Player A drew 1 card [jamie756]: thats weird why exp all didnt trigger [Axelsj]: probably dont register placing damage counters as taking damage… game is broken… [@developers](https://forum.tcgone.net/groups/developers) ---
**Author:** ![JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/JanJanKiq)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/2 "2020-05-08T10:57:39Z")
Unless there is a special ruling i am not aware of, you are absolutely correct. Bumping so the devs can fix it. ---
**Author:** ![jamie756](https://forum.tcgone.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@jamie756](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/jamie756)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/3 "2024-02-16T17:50:36Z")
Bumping this one as its from about 4 years ago and does not seem to be marked as resolved ---
**Author:** ![admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/user_avatar/forum.tcgone.net/admin/32/6467_2.png) [@admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/admin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/4 "2024-02-17T15:40:26Z")
[@Testers](https://forum.tcgone.net/groups/testers) can you please revalidate & add more information? ---
**Author:** ![JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/JanJanKiq)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/5 "2024-02-18T12:09:30Z")
The active pokemon was knocked out by an effect, but since EXP.ALL doesn’t specify damage, the EXP.ALL attached to Vulpix should have allowed to move a basic energy from the active to the benched pokemon **BUT** The FRLG print is mistranslated and never got errata; it should only trigger when “1 of your Active Pokémon is Knocked Out by _damage from_ your opponent’s attack.” > Q. Player 1 has an active Dark Slowking with 50 damage and a Dark and a Psychic energy attached to it. He also had a benched Slowpoke with an EXP.ALL attached. Player 2 attacks with ATM Rock. Would the attack with the ATM Rock that knocked out his now-devolved Slowpoke activate the EXP.ALL? > A. EXP.ALL does not trigger from a KO of your Active Pokémon if the KO is a result of devolving. The EXP.ALL should only activate when KO’d due to damage, just like Jumpluff’s “Buffer”. I think we can assume this is the case for the Neo Destiny print, too ---
**Author:** ![admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/user_avatar/forum.tcgone.net/admin/32/6467_2.png) [@admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/admin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/6 "2024-02-18T16:23:44Z")
So, this is not a bug? ---
**Author:** ![JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/c77e96/32.png) [@JanJanKiq](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/JanJanKiq)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/7 "2024-02-18T16:32:03Z")
Not a bug 😃 ---
**Author:** ![admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/user_avatar/forum.tcgone.net/admin/32/6467_2.png) [@admin](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/admin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/8 "2024-02-18T16:35:03Z")
By the way, I am marking these rulings in the code so hopefully some day we’ll have a central database of over-rulings / erratas that are also visible in the game. But for that I have to do a very expensive refactoring operation in the backend, which I plan to do after resolving about 90% bug reports in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum.tcgone.net/uploads/default/original/2X/4/442a0abe1bd395214494d186db28301821dc0641.png) [@system](https://forum.tcgone.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.tcgone.net/t/br-exp-all-n4-93-ko-due-to-non-damage/7755/9 "2024-02-23T16:36:01Z")
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